Tom Kuchlein has shared a great photo of the Cartierville School 1959-60 hockey team

Tom Kuchlein contacted me recently after coming across a previous post about Cartierville School.

The previous post is entitled: Cartierville School in Montreal.

Cartierville School 1959-60 hockey team. In the front row, Tom Kuchlein is fourth from the right and Martin Kues is on the far right. Photo source: Tom Kuchlein

In a comment on Oct. 7, 2021 at the above-noted post, Tom Kuchlein wrote:

Hi, Just came upon your page while searching for something else. I went to Cartierville school in 1959-1960 and 1960-61. My teachers were Miss McDonald grade 5 and Mr. Hart grade 6. I have a picture of the 1959-60 school hockey team.

I’m pleased to say that I now have the picture (sent to me by email).

For the caption for the photo, Tom has shared names of two players. He comments, “I hope others may recognize themselves or friends in the picture.”

If anyone can add additional names of students for the caption, please let me know (in the Comments section below or by email at jpill@preservedstories.com).

We now have quite a few posts about Cartierville School.

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Comments from Tom Kuchlein about Cartierville School

Tom Kuchlein, Oct. 8, 2021

Jaan,

Unfortunately I only remember two names associated with all the faces in the picture. Obviously my own, fourth from the right, and Martin Kues far right. He was one of my friends from Cloverdale in Pierrefonds. Sadly he was killed in a car accident shortly after his 21st birthday. I don’t know who took the picture but do remember that the team was made up of kids from grades 5, 6 and 7. I’m not sure who the coach was although the gym teacher of the time was a Mr. Bethel.

Jaan Pill, Oct. 8, 2021

Tom,

I remember Martin Kues. I was saddened when I heard he had died in a car accident. It’s great that you have two names.

I remember a Mr. Bethel who was a gym teacher at Morison School. He had a British accent as I recall. I remember one baseball game when students on opposing teams began to argue with each other, I think about a disagreement about a particular play during the game. Mr. Bethel put up with it for a while, then said, “Game’s over.” That was the end of the baseball game.

Tom Kuchlein

Martin was my best friend from around 1959, we were only 7 days apart in age. We grew apart somewhat after high school as our directions and interests changed. He went to University and I went to Montreal tech. . We were scouts at the Good Shepherd together and did a lot of camping and canoeing. My family was hit rather hard by his death as we were all close to him and his parents. Sadly his father passed away a year later from cancer. After that we lost touch with his mother.

Yah, Mr. Bethel was quite a character. I remember he organized a soccer game between Morison and Cartierville and coached both teams for the game. Worse than that though was that after the game he loaded the entire Cartierville team into his VW beetle and drove us home to Cloverdale. He was still teaching when my nephew was a student at Herbert Purcell in Pierrefonds in the late 70s.

Tom Kuchlein (continued)

I have been reading many of the posts with great interest. I noticed that quite a number of them are from people who immigrated to Canada as my family did or followed a similar path to Cartierville School and beyond as I did.

We came to Canada from the Netherlands in May of 1955. Our first home was a basement apartment on Linton Street in the Snowdon area. My first school was Van Horne School. I did 1 month of grade 1 there and failed miserably. I did pass math and art but failed English of course and penmanship as I had learned cursive and did not do block letters well. I did grade 1 again in 1955-56 at Van Horne with better results.

In 1956 we moved to Cartierville on Michel Sarrazin St. I did grades 2, 3 and part of 4 at Morrison school. In late 1959 we moved to a house on the corner of Gouin and Lalande Boulevards. I was transferred to Roxboro School for the rest of grade 4. Because the City of Pierrefonds could not make up its mind as to which street our house was on and the school districts could not get the boundaries figured out I spent the next 2 years riding the provincial bus to Cartierville School.

My teachers were Miss McDonald grade 5 and Mr. Hart grade 6. They were 2 teachers who had great influence on me and my class mates and we excelled under their care. It was also interesting to note that they married each other the following year. In 1961-62 I completed grade 7 along with many former Cartierville school classmates. After that I did grades 8 and 9 in Sir Winston Churchill High and 10 and 11 at Riverdale and the rest is history.

In a number of posts I noticed mention of The Church of the Good Shepherd that was across the Somerset Street from the school. I don’t know if anyone remembers that that church hosted a Cub Scout Pack, Boy Scout troop and Rover Crew during the 50s and early 60s. In early 60s I was a scout there and later the Scout troop became a Sea Scout Ship with 2 sail boats at the Venture in Point-Claire. Frank Budden was the leader during that time. I’m wondering if any of your followers might remember.

Lastly I saw some posts by a Bob Carswell. He is of the same age as my brother Hendrik (Hank) who had a friend named Bob Carswell. I was wondering if he was that Bob. Bob went to the same high schools as my brother so they must have crossed paths.

Well that’s about all I can remember.

Jaan Pill

Most interesting to know you lived in the Snowdon area and went to Van Horne School. We lived in the Snowdon area before we moved to a new house on Lavigne Street in Cartierville in the early 1950s. We had arrived in Canada in 1951 on a ship from Sweden (my parents were refugees from Estonia) called the Gripsholm.

My first experience of school was Van Horne School. That’s where I started my formal schooling. I don’t know how many years I was at the school before we moved to Cartierville. I remember that I really enjoyed playing games with classmates at recess. It’s interesting to look back, to summon up memories from those years.

I remember Snowdon quite well. I’ve been reading about the history of the neighbourhood recently.

Mr. Bethel is a teacher who had a personality that a person could remember, even these many years later. I remember him quite well. Some other teachers, I don’t remember much about them but I remember Mr. Bethel. Another gym teacher I remember is Mrs. Jelinek from Laurentide School. It’s interesting to know Mr. Bethel had a long teaching career. Mrs. Jelinek went on to teach high school. She too had a long teaching career.

I’ve asked Bob Carswell if he might be the Bob Carswell that you refer to. I look forward to his comments.

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  1. Klaas Vander Baaren
    Klaas Vander Baaren says:

    I found it interesting to read Tom’s early history and how it closely it parallels mine. We emigrated from The Netherlands in 1951. Initially we lived in Ahuntsic so I started school there. We then moved to 8th Ave in Roxboro which meant I was bused to Cartierville School for grades 2 though 5. We then moved to General Giraud, a block from Morison school where i attended grades 6 and 7. In 1960 I started my 4 years at Malcolm Campbell. We had just moved to Barnes St., just off Somerset.

    Mrs. Jelinek started at Malcolm Campbell H.S. when it opened in 1960.

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    • CHARLES R TSIANG
      CHARLES R TSIANG says:

      Klaas, Did you know Peter van Toorn at Cartierville? We were together in grade 6 and 7 … I think with Mrs Staniforth and Mrs Jackson.

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  2. Jaan Pill
    Jaan Pill says:

    The parallels in early history are of interest for certain, Klaas.

    In recent years I’ve been reading a lot about the history of The Netherlands. I became interested in this topic after I visited Amsterdam with my family in August 2018. I was super impressed with the bicycle culture in that city.

    I’ve been interested to learn that the switch from a car-centred way of life to a bike-centred way of life in Amsterdam began in the 1970s when a lot of people got together in a focused, determined way to start building a bicycle infrastructure – a transportation system that made cycling safe and enjoyable for everybody. That’s a huge source of inspiration for me: what people can accomplish at a city level.

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  3. Bert Eccles
    Bert Eccles says:

    I believe Mr. Bethel’s first name was Randy. If I recall correctly, he was the gym teacher at Morison during my years in Grades One through Five (September 57 to June 62) and possibly also the following year (September 62 through June 63). He was replaced by Miss Stein, who advised us at the end of our gym class one fateful day in November 63 that JFK had just been assassinated.

    Randy (?) was definitely a memorable character and – I regret to say – could sometimes have an abrasive personality. I encountered him by chance many years later, in the summer of 1992. I believe he was living in Roxboro by then. He had visibly aged considerably and his demeanour seemed to have mellowed equally considerably.

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  4. Bruce Goodman
    Bruce Goodman says:

    Great memories! I was a member of the Sea Scouts there in the ‘60s. I believe “Frank” Budden was actually Fred Budden. And, I was part of a two week ‘cruise’ one summer from Pointe Claire to Ottawa, then down the Rideau Canal system to Rideau River Provincial Park near Kemptville, Ont. Little did I know that years later, as a Bank of Nova Scotia employee – I would be transferred in 1972 from Montreal to Kemptville. A real culture shock…from a city of 2 million to a town of 2 thousand! I attended Morison School prior to MCHS.

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    • Jaan Pill
      Jaan Pill says:

      I remember Stuart Budden and yes, it was Fred (not Frank) Budden. Other people knew Stuart Budden better than I did. What I remember about him from those days was that he was very actively and resourcefully engaged in his community. I find that kind of enthusiasm inspiring.

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    • Tom Kuchlein
      Tom Kuchlein says:

      Hey Bruce,
      You are absolutely correct. It was Fred Budden. I had a classmate called Frank Button and often got the names confused. I don’t remember a Bruce Goodman. Martin Kues and I were in the same watch/patrol. And eventually moved on to the Sea Wolf Rover Crew. Mike Parkinson was also with us. He eventually led the Troop for a year or two.
      About your cruise to Ottawa and beyond. Do you remember any of the names of the boat crew? Was it done in the whaler? I ask because my brother Hank skippered a similar cruise. They had a problem at the Carrion Dam because the locks were not yet ready. The boat was hoisted up on a sling and they actually cracked several boards near the keel so time had to be spent to caulk and repair the boat.

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  5. Jaan Pill
    Jaan Pill says:

    It’s good to have an update on Mr. Bethel. I still remember the time at Morison he said the baseball game was over, when the opposing sides were getting quite heated in their disagreement over what had occurred (whatever it was) in the game up to that point. That cleared the air, for sure.

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  6. Jaan Pill
    Jaan Pill says:

    I was saddened to learn that Peter Van Toorn passed away on Oct. 6, 2021.

    The following message is from a Facebook page:

    Véhicule Press

    October 7 at 9:35 PM

    We are immensely sad to announce the death of Montreal poet Peter Van Toorn at the age of 77. He was nominated for the Governor General’s Award for Poetry in 1984 for his landmark book MOUNTAIN TEA, which Véhicule Press reissued in 2003. Our condolences to his family and friends.

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  7. Jaan Pill
    Jaan Pill says:

    Scott Munro (MCHS 1963) has shared some details from those years which I can summarize:

    Martin Kues was a member of the Cartierville Scout Troop, which Scott joined as a Scout and continued with as a member of the Sea Wolf Rover Crew. Martin and Scott were active in swimming, so Martin’s dad would sometimes drive them to practices and meets in their Volkswagen bug – always an enthusiastic dad.

    Scott was saddened by Martin’s death, but hadn’t heard about his dad passing away so soon after. The Scoutmaster’s name was Fred (not Frank) Budden, who had sons Stuart and Skipper and a daughter whose name may have been Desdin.

    Stuart worked briefly as an announcer at CFOX radio and moved to Toronto where he ended up working in the Human Resources Department at the University of Toronto. “A few years older than me,’ notes Scott, “Stuart was one of my guiding lights, helping his father our with the Troop.”

    Scott also looks back on his Scouting days, such as two summers camping with American Scouts at Edin Mills, VT, Stuart Budden along each time as a Senior Scout. Scott also recalls two ascents of Mt. Marcy, NY with a couple of fellow Rovers as well as a Rover from a different Troop who had inspired the Rovers to embark on the ascent.

    From my vantage point as an observer, I’v e thought about how people such as Scott and Stuart were (and remain) so actively involved in all kinds of things in various communities.

    It also occurs to me that Adirondacks history is of interest (always new things to learn); I recently came across an online resource, a PhD dissertation by Maria F. Reynolds at Loyola University Chicago, that I’ve found of interest:

    Doing History in the Adirondacks: Interpreting the Park, the People, and the Landscape

    https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/48608705.pdf

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    • Tom Kuchlein
      Tom Kuchlein says:

      Jaan,
      Say hi to Scott for me. His comments have brought back a lot of memories for me. I remember the drives on Saturday mornings to the N.D.G. Community Centre pool to swim and practice for competitions. Driving with 2 wheels on the curb of the old Decarie Blvd. to pass some guy hogging 2 lanes. Mr. Kues taught me how to drive. Fortunately he only taught me the safe things :o).
      I also remember Stuart and Skipper Budden. Stuart was the guy who came to the rescue of his father. While on a senior sailing/camping trip to Point-Calumet on Lake of Two Mountains with Martin and me, which Fred oversaw, Fred became quite ill. Martin and I had to physically put Fred in the Navy Dinghy the troop owned and sail back to Point-Claire. We stopped at the locks in Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue and called Stuart who came and picked up his dad while Martin and I sailed the boat back to the Venture. So many memories come flooding back.

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      • Jaan Pill
        Jaan Pill says:

        Tom,
        I’ve passed along your greetings to Scott.
        Pleased to know the rescue proceeded smoothly! It’s wonderful to know of your sailing trips on the Lake of Two Mountains. A beautiful part of the world.

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