Question from Darryl Wade regarding Marlborough Golf Club in Cartierville
Update: We have found the answer to the question which Darryl Wade has asked; you can find the answer at this subsequent post:
Darryl Wade writes:
I grew up in Ville St. Laurent on Somerset Road. Our house backed on to the Marlborough Golf Course. My father was a member until 1965 when the course closed to make way for a housing development. My brothers were junior members and club caddies.
I’m looking to find a scorecard for the course. Or a re-creation of the scorecard capturing the yardages etc.
If you can help with Darryl’s quest for a scorecard, please let us know.
Comments from Bob Carswell
I wrote to Bob Carswell, after receiving the above-noted message from Darryl Wade, and asked is Bob could explain what relationship the Marlborough golf course has to Ville St. Laurent. In reply, Bob wrote:
To answer your question, Somerset Road was partly in Cartierville and partly in St. Laurent. It still is to this day. Only thing is I am not sure where the dividing line is….I thought it was just above the old skating rink but I could be wrong. I would have to ask my cousin who lived on it.
Yes, it did back on to the Marlborough Golf and Country Club which went from a block north of Gouin right to the railroad tracks going to St. Eustache. I particularly remember the caddy tournament I played in some years before it closed (probably in the 1950s for me) and the 17th hole over a water hazard which was a par 3 and I got a hole-in-one on it. It will take a bit of work but I might have a route to some specific info if I get a moment to find it.
I just went back to the old site and noted the lengthy discussion we had on my 70th birthday that Jaan wrote about. I added some info [below] to it.
Because of where Somerset Road was located relative to Cartierville School. People who live up in St. Laurent but could not get to a St. Laurent school from there without driving down Somerset Road into Cartierville first, I guess an arrangement was made for them to attend Cartierville School as Klaas Vander Baaren, Barclay Allen, my cousins, and others did. When I was in Grade 4 in 1954 we attended class at the old Church of the Good Shepherd (built 1922) across the street and because of the babyboom, there were two classes taught side by side. I remember identical twins, Robbie and Wallace assigned one each to the two classes.
At a previous post, entitled Additional comments from Graeme Decarie – regarding Saraguay, Cartierville School, and Marlborough golf club, Bob Carswell has added a comment, which I’m reposting by way of bringing attention to it:
On May 22, 2019 Bob Carswell wrote:
I always note the coincidences. My 70th birthday was on November 18th when Jaan first wrote this. I took myself out for a steak expected to die by age 70 due to all of my disabilities. It is now mid-2019 and I am headed for 75. Who knew? Anyway, to answer a few points, I caddied for Elmer Lach at Marlborough. His face was full of scars as were many of those who played without defensive masks in those days. Also there were two caddy shacks, one as Eric Karbin described (an open air one right outside the pro shop and then the other at the end of Bruton Road’s walk-through). They made a switch to the old shelter set up opposite the clubhouse on the east side of the 9th hole to clean up the image outside the pro shop. I worked out of both as a C then a B caddy.
Marlborough was a source of income for most of us and no doubt was the first place I met a lot of you as caddying was in my blood with my great uncle building his house at the end of the 8th hole. It was located on Bruton Road, a place we regularly visited as his wife was the only living relative of my deceased grandmother (McKInleys of Ottawa) who survived beyond their 50s. She died at 56 and lost 3 siblings between 33 & 51. I have outlived all but their father so far. He lasted to 87.
On May 22, 2019 Jaan Pill wrote:
Good to read your comment, Bob. We are doing well.
Your comment prompted me to bring this post up to date, by way of reconfiguring it so that it functions as part of the newly designed website. This is a process that I’m working at gradually, with the aim of reconfiguring all of the posts, at this site.
Archival photo of Cartierville
I recently came across a Jan. 31, 2021 Facebook post from Peter Halliday that I want to share; Peter writes:
I posted this shot a few years ago, but because of the renewed interest in the Canadair shot below, I thought I’d re-post this one too. Some landmarks are visible already – the path of highway 15, the railroad tracks, Sacre Coeur hospital, the neighbourhood where MCHS would be built, in the lower center of the photo. I think the picture was from the 1950’s, but I am not sure when… If you want the full zoomable photo/file you can try this link: